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Title: Requesting Help.
Description: Photoshop


Showbiz - March 16, 2009 09:54 PM (GMT)
Okay, well I have been trying to clean. I can level [ maybe under-leveled but better then over leveled XD ], line-up, clean the bubbles and very small redraws. Such as a small cloud or something. I need a site to help with redrawing/cleaning/editing.

Also, here is a good amount of questions if anyone does not mind.

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1: When redrawing should I make a new layer? Or should I just stick to the whole CTRL+Z / ALT+CTRL+Z?

2: When redrawing hair, or lines in general, what is the best way to do it. What tool, is what I meant. Sometimes the line fades, think like a sun going down, the rays type thing.

3: Cropping is a pain some times. When I use the crop tool it wants to jump a certain amount from the side/top/bottom. Instead of just alittle that I need. In that case should I try another tool and select the way I want to crop it, copy it and make a new file?

4: JPG or PNG?

5: Text, some times when I read manga it seems that the word seems to be some what longer than others, so it goes down a space like this:

Some-
times

Would it be best just to put sometimes in a line of it's own?

6: What is the best way to redraw? Clone? If you use it that way, patterns get messed up.

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Hope it is okay to ask this here. Also, if I have any questions would it be alright if I post them here or edit this post?

Sincerely,
Showbiz

AngelIvory - March 17, 2009 05:01 PM (GMT)
Hmm there are some websites on the Recruitment topic, maybe they would help you out a bit? *??

1: When redrawing should I make a new layer? Or should I just stick to the whole CTRL+Z / ALT+CTRL+Z?

The easiest way when editing is to make a new layer every time you redraw, to minimize mistakes that you can't fix. When you get more confident with redrawing, then you can make less new layers. What sort of layer is also important, this depends on what you are redrawing. If you are redrawing just lines, then making a blank new layer would be best. If you are redrawing hair with patterns that need cloning, i find it best to duplicate the background layer so then you don't need to constantly switch layers to clone, but its up to you.

2: When redrawing hair, or lines in general, what is the best way to do it. What tool, is what I meant. Sometimes the line fades, think like a sun going down, the rays type thing.

I use the line tool, other editors use the pen tool, and others just clone the original line. The problem with the line tool is that it is straight, so its not that easy to use for curves. The pen tool is kinda hard to use but great for curves. Cloning the line really only works for straight lines.... To make fading lines, you can either use a line tool that is white, and turn down the opacity to about 40% and run it over the black lines. Another way is to use the Dodge tool (looks like a ball on a stick) which gently lightens the dark lines. Try them and see what works best.

3: Cropping is a pain some times. When I use the crop tool it wants to jump a certain amount from the side/top/bottom. Instead of just alittle that I need. In that case should I try another tool and select the way I want to crop it, copy it and make a new file?

You need to zoom in quite closely to crop accurately, around 600%-800% is fine but it does mean that when you're pulling the tool to cover the whole page, it takes a while to reach to the bottom. If you want to crop 1 pixel, you need to zoom in around 1000% and the crop tool should start jumping one pixel at a time. You can also do it the way you mentioned, it's just more work ^^;

4: JPG or PNG?

PNG for normal scans, JPEG for color pages. There is a reason for this, PNG has "colors" that makes up the pictures, and it usually does not have enough colors to make up the color pages so it goes all pixel-ated. When saving, click on File, Save For Web... and a new window pops up, there should be a drop down menu somewhere with numbers. This is how many colors you can set the page to have, the more colors the igger the size of the file. Manga scans are usually set to around 16 colors.

5: Text, some times when I read manga it seems that the word seems to be some what longer than others, so it goes down a space like this:

Some-
times

Would it be best just to put sometimes in a line of it's own?


This depends on if it looks okay, for example:

My dad
sometimes
eat a lot.


Thats okay. If its:

My mother
was talking to my sister
again today, she said how she
sometimes
likes to play on the computer
late at night.


It looks a bit weird....its hard to explain ^^;

6: What is the best way to redraw? Clone? If you use it that way, patterns get messed up.

Again it depends on what you are redrawing, cloning is usually patterns and simple images like whole windows on a house. If you are redrawing hair, then using the pen or line tool is best. If the hair has a pattern in it then you need to use both. If its a cloud or something, then clone. If its flowers, you need to redraw with a pen or line tool. Redrawing is really a mixture of all different techniques...very complicated ^^

I hope that answered some questions, if you have more, feel free to ask, i know my explanations are sometimes horrible ^^; Good luck!

Showbiz - March 17, 2009 06:26 PM (GMT)
AngelIvory,

I think I love you. XD As for some of the stuff you said, helped me out a lot. For example the cropping, etc. Just when redrawing a bubble that has a background in it, say stiches in different directions, if I clone it, the lines get bent out of shape, etc. Even trying to actually select a little piece of the background to copy and paste, it becomes disoriented/weird.


Sincerely,
Showbiz

Nevi - March 17, 2009 09:28 PM (GMT)
I can only second all that Angel said. *ROLL

With patterns I always try to figure them out, like if they're simply arbitrary or if they're just repeating. If they're just repeating, I copy out and paste one section as a new layer and the duplicate it, place it together until it's big enough to cover the section, which needs to be fixed. Then you can just erase the parts you don't need. At the end I always merge the layers, so that I get like one for the fixes.

If the patterns are arbitrary, those are usually really hard to fix, then I use the clone tool. In right size you can patch up the missing pieces nicely.

Hope all that made some sense, it's late over here. *XD

AngelIvory - March 18, 2009 10:23 PM (GMT)
Hmmm I dont know if what i am thinking is the same as what you are cloning *XD Does the pattern have white lines as the stitches?

If it does, then i clone back the background first, and then redraw the white lines myself with the line tool so the lines are straight and not bent.

If the stitches are the pattern and its on a white background, then clone the stitches first, even if its wonky just make sure you have the pattern sort of right. Then use the white line tool to neaten it up.

If the stitches are patterned and they are sitting on a patterned background (the author must be evil!) then do what nevi said and clone the pattern several times on a new layer, and then use that layer to fix all the patterns.

Hope that kinda helps *XD its late here too



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